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[-Return to [[http://davidwarlick.com/wordpress/?p=1839|Main Page]]-] '''[+++Backchannel for Reading Blueribbon Conference+++]''' Here is the transcript of your backchannel conversation for 273. This is a wiki page. As such, you can edit this page and insert text into the transcript, contining the conversation, as I have done. To edit, click the EDIT link at the top of the page. The password is ''teacher''. You can indent your comments by inserting '''-->''' at the beginning text. Many HTML codes can also be inserted. Other formatting features can also be found at the bottom of the edit page. ---- <img src="http://davidwarlick.com/images1/Wordle_-_Create-20110416-065007.jpg" align="right" width="250" /> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='left'>I look forward to reading your conversation.... ->[-David - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:52:22-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3cf72cc056a8d5bec7515f2225be3859' height='25' align='left'>Hi! ->[-Jackie - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:52:25-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/c993294816b1f0094f28d5f09776fc0a' height='25' align='left'>Nice avatar ->[-Darren Burris - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:52:35-] -->''Hmmm! Don't think I've ever seen this many gravatars in one of these conversations...'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>Hi Dave! ->[-Jenelle - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:52:36-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/6e66429347351ea26aa0194545ef7ad6' height='25' align='left'>Yes- an interactive presentation! ->[-Diane horvath - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:52:37-] -->''It's about conversation. In a time of rapid change, I think that the one word to describes education and learning best is "conversation."'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d5ceaecfbe460dcf83af4b22234b626d' height='25' align='left'>I ate a bagel this morning. ->[-Houli - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:52:40-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/f922c5e3cf2fc50708cf8f6f9b5ae2c8' height='25' align='left'>This is kinda fun! ->[-Patti - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:52:42-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/1ab26beaa366d9c0c88f6102e8ec66d8' height='25' align='left'>This is soCool ->[-Mark - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:52:43-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/754bd8aa505cee672d33dad95483cd64' height='25' align='left'>Hi,Dave! ->[-C - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:52:44-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>I am excited to be here ->[-Joanne - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:52:47-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>Hiii ->[-Kerri - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:52:48-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>Welcome to Reading! ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:52:51-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>what's for lunch ->[-Mike - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:52:52-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/5548329e86c5617a84751844fe2c43d5' height='25' align='left'>Hi Dave! ->[-Diana - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:52:55-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/1d4124b4a89911bef80cd7e8e2b305ae' height='25' align='left'>Hi Dave! ->[-Jen - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:52:57-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/5c398410a508b558caeee8c323f76af5' height='25' align='left'>Hi everyone ->[-solivo11 (Steve) - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:53:01-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/231eb4bd24f352fa7d7d9eb87dab2a5f' height='25' align='left'>hi steve ->[-Adam - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:53:10-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/adfed7c3f41a8d4af6d037840fd44fec' height='25' align='left'>very cool! ->[-Ranjani Sriram - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:53:13-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/14cb1b76282f670dc56ddd214781cdea' height='25' align='left'>I can see bad things happening if there were on the screen live for long :-) ->[-Alfred Thompson - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:53:21-] -->''Some people actually have these things displayed during the session. If this were a more interactive conversational workshop, I'd probably consider displaying the backchannel. But for a presentation, such as most of my work is, it would distract the audience too much -- and me.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/483a88e71775fdb6c232f1e5a0ce9d61' height='25' align='left'>Love this.....want to try in my room! :) ->[-Jenn - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:53:28-] -->''Knitter Chat is a personal experiment. But there are a number of tools that are available for public use. Here is a rather incomplete list:'' -->''* Chatzy - http://chatzy.com/'' -->''* Backchan - http://backchan.nl/'' -->''* BackNoise - http://backnoise.com/'' -->''* Today's Meet - http://todaysmeet.com/ (I like this one)'' -->''Chris Smith, from Thailand, has a much more extensive listing here: http://goo.gl/sXFsN'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>Good morning... hope "ya'll" had some coffee to get ready for today! ->[-KerryHawk02 - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:53:32-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/c993294816b1f0094f28d5f09776fc0a' height='25' align='left'>check out my blog http://www.scholarsonmayhew.blogspot.com ->[-Darren Burris - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:53:36-] -->''Thanks! This is a very good example for a teach blog, designed to serve the teachers stakeholders. Well done, especially with inclusion of mathematical expressions. As you know, that's not easy to do...'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>What are grits? ->[-Jenelle - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:53:37-] -->''No one really knows. They taste a bit like cardboard, except in Charleston and New Orleans, where they flavor them with cheese, sauce and shrimp. My preference is Cream of Wheat...'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/5548329e86c5617a84751844fe2c43d5' height='25' align='left'>I love that you used a QR code in your presentation. ->[-Diana - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:53:38-] -->''Surprisingly, QR-Codes were actually first devised in 1995. They're huge in Asia, but popping up much more here, as more North Americans are using smart phones. I saw a presentation at an ed tech conference a few weeks ago about them. I think that the presenters went a bit over the edge with school applications, but that sort of over enthusiasm is necessary for a new tech. I've started a blog post about where I see them going, but haven't had time to finish it up.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/5c398410a508b558caeee8c323f76af5' height='25' align='left'>I'm thinking I like this for students better than the Edmodo stream ->[-solivo11 (Steve) - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:53:42-] -->''I've never used Edmodo. It seems to me that he has added too many features to the service, but that's not a criticism. There are probably very good reasons for it.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/b57be8b9a7865e141f4a6c7afb69cefa' height='25' align='left'>hello ->[-Larry - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:53:45-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/504633487c826101f2cbbb73c7bf7eda' height='25' align='left'>A group of us just created a google doc for sharing favorite web resources for teachers. Please contribute: http://bit.ly/dIH7XL ->[-Jeremy - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:53:50-] -->''Wow! This is a first for me. I've never had a group generate a Google Doc of resources, spontaneously, and invite attendees to contribute. Very Cool!'' -->''Gave me an idea though. What if I added a feature to Knitter Chat that captured all of the urls mentioned in the conversation, and listed them in the wiki. Hummm! Have to consider that...'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/231eb4bd24f352fa7d7d9eb87dab2a5f' height='25' align='left'>great tool ->[-Adam - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:53:53-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/bed878462953fcd73ceb89e3ea102274' height='25' align='left'>great conference! ->[-Peggy Coyne - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:53:55-] <img src='http://davidwarlick.com/images1/twitter-20101016-163258.jpg' align='left'>David Warlick is presenting at the Blue Ribbon conference for the Reading Public Schools. HT:idave0415 ->[-Peggy Coyne - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:53:49-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/640ca73bfbc5fb41e72956aea1bc15af' height='25' align='left'>Think about using this in a classroom! ->[-Brenda - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:53:58-] -->''I know that teachers are starting to do this. To me, the power is in the capturing of the transcript and making it part of the class resources -- and making it available to the public. Now that's accountability ;-)'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/25112d240f998153e25578974a134a97' height='25' align='left'>Cool, y'all! ->[-Sarah - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:54:00-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/cc1ef5924cb3c9e27a77b40fba05de8c' height='25' align='left'>Kids would love this ->[-Janice - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:54:04-] -->''Assume, however, that some would abuse this initially. You'll have to work through that. But one thing that I consistently hear from teachers who are having their students blog, is that they are having conversations about appropriate behavior, that they didn't have before.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>First time doing this ->[-Connie - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:54:36-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/353c05c2115afb43c7f37f05f6731a35' height='25' align='left'>I thoght second life was ovEr... ->[-Jen - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:54:37-] -->''Nope! The growth has stagnated, but at this moment, 8:15 AM, Saturday, there are just at 48,000 people currently in Second Life...'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/afd45a78a5cfb168657f35d90156d9b5' height='25' align='left'>Ma.papanikolaou's art page http://www.wesbmsart.blogspot.com/ ->[-Christina - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:54:40-] -->''Another excellent teacher blog...'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/5c398410a508b558caeee8c323f76af5' height='25' align='left'>Kids have a real hard time maintaining attention to two things at once in a backchannel situation -- a real skill to teach ->[-solivo11 (Steve) - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:54:54-] -->''Hummm! That goes against the conventional wisdom that our students are so good at multitasking. You may well be right. I like the term "shift-tasking" better than "multitasking."'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>This would be a great way to provide a backchannel for questions, conversations ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:54:56-] -->''Yes! I like it because it extends the Q&A and conversation beyond the constraints of a classroom and bell schedule...'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7667db4ff88dd440bfb8ca0b821feeb3' height='25' align='left'>words are like toothpaste once you squeeze them out you can't put them back in ->[-Hollie Fumero - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:55:09-] -->'':-)'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/504633487c826101f2cbbb73c7bf7eda' height='25' align='left'>It always surprises me when I hear "Science Friday" on NPR say that they still use SecondLife ->[-Jeremy - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:55:29-] -->''Again, I think that the interest in virtual worlds is just taking a hiatus. What really interests me is a number of projects to build VWs for instructional use. Quest Atlantis, is one, though that's more like a video game than a sandbox-style VW. '' -->''OpenSIM, and open source VW that can be downloaded in installed on your own servers, is kinda cool as well, and very similar to Second Life. Reaction Gride (http://reactiongrid.com/) will securely host OpenSIM environments for education institutions and businesses.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>@solivo11 might help keep it more focused than Twitter, tho. One distraction instead of a million! ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:55:35-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/c993294816b1f0094f28d5f09776fc0a' height='25' align='left'>anybody use second life? ->[-Darren Burris - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:56:01-] -->''For an educator who is using Second Life instructionally and written a great deal about it, check out Peggy Sheehy -- http://goo.gl/PZZse'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/5c398410a508b558caeee8c323f76af5' height='25' align='left'>@holly Isn't that why we should teach students to think before they type? ->[-solivo11 (Steve) - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:56:13-] -->''Yes! But, at the same time, the benefit of this sort of conversational, short message, exchange, is that poorly thought out, but interesting ideas can be shared and often built upon. What kids have to be helped to learn is to write and speak respectfully.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/afd45a78a5cfb168657f35d90156d9b5' height='25' align='left'>Support the arts! ->[-Christina - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:56:15-] -->''Yes! But not just for the sake of the arts, but also because creativity and design are crucial for our economic development -- just like STEM.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>I'm not concentrating on the speaker as I do this! ->[-Laura - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:56:18-] -->''It takes practice. I've learned to type and listen at the same time. But I can't read and listen at the same time. Not sure I will ever be able to do this.'' -->''Given that this sort of activity will cause some distraction, paying less attention to the speak, the question because, does the benefit of backchanneling make it worth the limited loss of attention. I think so, though I can't back that up with data.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>I still don't see the draw of SecondLife - it seems like a lot of work for what you get ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:56:19-] -->''I agree, personally. But when SL attracts so many people, still, and it's not the only one, well, this is something that we can not ignore. Also, consider that our younger students are spending a lot of time in virtual environments, such as Club Pinguin and others.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>Great slides kids love avatars ->[-Abruno@reading.k12.ma.us - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:56:37-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/353c05c2115afb43c7f37f05f6731a35' height='25' align='left'>I agree @danja ->[-Jen - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:56:50-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/504633487c826101f2cbbb73c7bf7eda' height='25' align='left'>Don't forget: if this is a distraction you can turn it off ->[-Jeremy - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:56:51-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/9249a79a738de3d04d6a26e1ff4f289f' height='25' align='left'>that looks like my 3rd grade classroom ->[-Kathy - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:56:59-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/11eed6d7f97a87a8697de7c898a207b9' height='25' align='left'>what do people like to use for avatars? ->[-brodin - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:57:02-] -->''An interesting question -- good question for research. I've always preferred to use my own picture, though sometimes cartoon-styled. But other people use pictures of their families, children, or some nonsensical cartoon character.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/82aa849f885e8320c7dae1e12f3041a0' height='25' align='left'>Did I make it on the big screen? ->[-Jess - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:57:19-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>I use http://faceyourmanga.com/ with my HS students ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:57:45-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/5caeedbd3493b27a20e007880a096a3e' height='25' align='left'>Go red sox!! ->[-Phil whitley - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:57:46-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>thank god my classroom doesn't look like that... the kids' faces with those expressions would bore ME ->[-KerryHawk02 - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:57:50-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/14cb1b76282f670dc56ddd214781cdea' height='25' align='left'>We are preparing students to work during the industrial revolution when they are living in the information revolution ->[-Alfred Thompson - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:58:05-] -->''High stakes testing is an industrial age solution to an information age problem.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/79677812d7d9ca25fad4c1147fbc3603' height='25' align='left'>does anyone know the discussion leader code for itouch users to get onto this discussion? ->[-Sarah D - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:58:27-] -->''What's iTouch?'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>Hi everyone! ->[-Christen - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:58:34-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/594cb5c1c48c17e32f966c612f36305e' height='25' align='left'>As a teacher of the deaf, I'm missing having an interpreter here. I'm used to having information in both English & ASL ->[-Kate - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:59:13-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a1c45fc3f5621eeeecb49e317d4293f9' height='25' align='left'>I'm typing right now from my phone! ->[-Tricia Harbour - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:59:22-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>another Avatar maker: http://www.voki.com/ ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:59:47-] <img src='http://davidwarlick.com/images1/twitter-20101016-163258.jpg' align='left'>Mobile phones changing the way we interact(men at grocery store) HT:idave0415 ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:59:46-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/82aa849f885e8320c7dae1e12f3041a0' height='25' align='left'>I feel old bc I have used a rotary phone! ->[-Jess - 15 Apr 2011 - 8:59:58-] -->'':-) I have one on my desk at home. Weighs about nine pounds.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/231eb4bd24f352fa7d7d9eb87dab2a5f' height='25' align='left'>How do you set up your own backchannel? ->[-Adam - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:00:02-] -->''See above. I like Today's Meet -- http://todaysmeet.com/ '' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a51cf0f7b164e9c633ef7da61f248998' height='25' align='left'>I think today's conference is proof that we are not teaching kids for the industrial revolution, but we are trying to convince the rest of c ->[-Erin Flynn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:00:05-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a51cf0f7b164e9c633ef7da61f248998' height='25' align='left'>world that standardized tests do not assess 21st century skills ->[-Erin Flynn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:00:28-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/6e66429347351ea26aa0194545ef7ad6' height='25' align='left'>Very much agree! ->[-Diane horvath - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:00:48-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>I can't imagine kids focusing using this ->[-Cheryl - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:00:50-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/b1c578c2b97ad5df2d522cc874643ff4' height='25' align='left'>i like better than edmodo for conversation too, but do u also think then students miss a lot of the instruction? ->[-julie - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:00:53-] -->''Again, is the benefit of this conversation worth the limited loss of attention in lecture. Plus, I would only use this when appropriate.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/b1c578c2b97ad5df2d522cc874643ff4' height='25' align='left'>i like better than edmodo for conversation too, but do u also think then students miss a lot of the instruction? ->[-julie - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:00:54-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/afd45a78a5cfb168657f35d90156d9b5' height='25' align='left'>Just use the same codes for itouch. I'm using mine right now ->[-Christina - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:00:58-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>I can see using this kind of backchannel for factual info with students ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:01:22-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/67ebc7f4194bfaa0283605d8f80187d5' height='25' align='left'>I am doing this from iPhone ->[-Ellie - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:01:40-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/5c398410a508b558caeee8c323f76af5' height='25' align='left'>@julie Yes!! They don't know how to drop in and out of conversations at appropriate times ->[-solivo11 (Steve) - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:01:50-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>A history discussion, for example, students ask each other questions on back channel, but share ideas with group ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:01:56-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>Backchannel could be used while kids are in small groups. Allows groups to network while they work. ->[-KerryHawk02 - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:02:02-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/82aa849f885e8320c7dae1e12f3041a0' height='25' align='left'>Anyone having anxiety trying to keep up? ->[-Jess - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:02:11-] <img src='http://davidwarlick.com/images1/twitter-20101016-163258.jpg' align='left'>Teaching should be focused on digital content not paper based HT:idave0415 HT:blueribbon ->[-Jess - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:02:09-] -->''At the conference I spoke at in Washington the day before, I heard someone say that textbooks are inherently disabling.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a1c45fc3f5621eeeecb49e317d4293f9' height='25' align='left'>It is harder to teach digital skills when we don't have enough ->[-Tricia Harbour - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:02:28-] -->''I'm assuming that you meant to say "enough technology." As I may have mentioned during the day, much of what I talked about in the keynote were things that are taught through the conversations of the classroom, not with children's hands on a machine.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>@Danja think we were thinking the same thing at the same time! ->[-KerryHawk02 - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:02:29-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a51cf0f7b164e9c633ef7da61f248998' height='25' align='left'>I am anxious to try and take notes and to communicate at the same time ->[-Erin Flynn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:02:38-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/11eed6d7f97a87a8697de7c898a207b9' height='25' align='left'>I must wonder how much of the info was redundant - like him linking his notes, the wiki, etc ->[-brodin - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:02:39-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>Or in FL, students use backchannel to share/ask about grammar while creating translation or writing/speaking in target language ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:02:52-] -->''True, and it's not a bad way to learn...'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/afd45a78a5cfb168657f35d90156d9b5' height='25' align='left'>@ Sarah d idave0415 ->[-Christina - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:03:03-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a51cf0f7b164e9c633ef7da61f248998' height='25' align='left'>The second world thing is cool, does everyone have the technology in schools? ->[-Erin Flynn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:03:15-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/5c398410a508b558caeee8c323f76af5' height='25' align='left'>@jess Don't try to keep up. Check in when you can. Important conversations will stick -- others will fade away in the stream ->[-solivo11 (Steve) - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:03:16-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/11eed6d7f97a87a8697de7c898a207b9' height='25' align='left'>@erin I think it is hard to do both well and possibly not possible to do them both well by our current standards ->[-brodin - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:03:41-] -->''It's all in degree. And, again, I'd use this only when appropriate.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/2e11bca666c9505074224c438d7fb377' height='25' align='left'>even if upper socio economic districts it is too costly to keep pace with technology ->[-Brandon - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:04:02-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>@jess all the notes will still be available after - if you think you missed something, you can come back later ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:04:06-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>How can anyone both participate in this backchat and pay attention to the speaker? Look at the conversations here...it's the digital equive ->[-Jenn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:04:12-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>I the backchannel, and miss it when I'm at a conference and there isn't one. But it isn't for everyone ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:04:53-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>I like the back channel ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:05:06-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/79677812d7d9ca25fad4c1147fbc3603' height='25' align='left'>We have become a multi-tasking society. ->[-Sarah D - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:05:09-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>that finger-thumb phone would be obnoxious in reality ->[-KerryHawk02 - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:05:22-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/504633487c826101f2cbbb73c7bf7eda' height='25' align='left'>I think you can create your own backchannel by just entering a unique event code. From DW's blog: http://bit.ly/h1Ps05 ->[-Jeremy - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:05:23-] -->''At one time, I was considering opening Knitter up for teachers to use. However, there are others out there, and I don't need another web service to have to support ;-)'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>...the digital eqivalent of passing notes in class. ->[-Jenn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:05:27-] -->''True, but the notes are public. It's more like bulletin board assignments...'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a51cf0f7b164e9c633ef7da61f248998' height='25' align='left'>I would love to have this communication with students it allows the shy ones to ask if they are nervous ->[-Erin Flynn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:05:49-] -->''I hear that a lot, that quieter students emerge as do hither-to unknown talents.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a51cf0f7b164e9c633ef7da61f248998' height='25' align='left'>it is also a more creative discussion format ->[-Erin Flynn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:06:04-] -->''But part of that is making this so casual, that you have permission to make mistakes...'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/11eed6d7f97a87a8697de7c898a207b9' height='25' align='left'> @ Danja Just because we are doing this, doesn't mean we are doing it well ->[-brodin - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:06:05-] -->''So, how do you measure "well"? What does that mean? For me, it is, "Did I learn something here that I wouldn't have otherwise?" For me, I already have...'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>@ don't disagree, but it can also add to understanding - sharing links, verifying facts, sharing ideas that build on key points ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:06:14-] -->''There are lots of stories out there about fact-checking during presentations -- and sometimes the speaker has been discredited before the end of the speech. The crucial part is whether the speaker also accessed the backchannel, caught the weakness in his ideas and fixed them.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a51cf0f7b164e9c633ef7da61f248998' height='25' align='left'>Has anyone else tried an internet classroom? it has worked great with 8th graders ->[-Erin Flynn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:06:22-] -->''What's this?'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/b1c578c2b97ad5df2d522cc874643ff4' height='25' align='left'>@kerryhawk02 - are u thinking kids in same small grp use to have a conversation, or across grps? ->[-julie - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:06:37-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/79677812d7d9ca25fad4c1147fbc3603' height='25' align='left'>I love that comment! It's not all about us and our style. It's about preparing our students for their future. ->[-Sarah D - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:06:50-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>Assume for a minute that there is value here, if we never practice we'll never do it well ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:06:51-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/5c398410a508b558caeee8c323f76af5' height='25' align='left'>internet classroom? ->[-solivo11 (Steve) - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:07:02-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>@'m thinking one person in each groups would be in charge of sharing their progress with the other small groups in the room ->[-KerryHawk02 - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:07:21-] -->''I've done this before, and it works very well...'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>Do we assume our students will be multitasking in the future? Shouldn't we start to teach them how to use the tools to do it well? ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:07:36-] -->''I think that you are right, Danja. At the same time, many, if not most, of our students can shift-task very well. And when they enter their working life, they'll learn how to adapt the skills to accomplish those goals. I learn literacy from the perspective of a scholar. When I started working, I learned to adapt to that context.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/5c398410a508b558caeee8c323f76af5' height='25' align='left'>@danja Absolutely. Practice is the key to doing anything well. Can't expect the first few times to go swimmingly ->[-solivo11 (Steve) - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:07:40-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a51cf0f7b164e9c633ef7da61f248998' height='25' align='left'>you can set up classes, post readings, and allow for discussion threads ->[-Erin Flynn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:07:52-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>We may be a MT society,but that only means we do many things ina mediovre manner ->[-Jenn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:07:58-] -->''There is probably some truth to this. However, I suspect that we will continue to have people who develop mastery skills, great writers, composer, artists, and musicians. My son is a great multitasked. But he has also mastered a musical instrument, and he did it in a very old-world way. '' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>What about human interactivity? Will people know how to interact face to face? ->[-Joanne - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:08:03-] -->''Good question. Research has shown that Millennials are actually excellent at interacting, and more sociable than the previous generations. Look at finding by PEW Internet in American Life, APA, and Amercian School Boards Association.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a51cf0f7b164e9c633ef7da61f248998' height='25' align='left'>it is free and one way to integrate technoilogy ->[-Erin Flynn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:08:10-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/2e11bca666c9505074224c438d7fb377' height='25' align='left'>can you send files on this. doesn't seem like it ->[-Brandon - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:08:15-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>I recall MassCUE when Keynote plagiarized key points and never cited source ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:08:16-] -->''Ouch! That's bad! Wasn't me was it?'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/6e66429347351ea26aa0194545ef7ad6' height='25' align='left'>@solivo11 began in Ohio- 10 years ago! Virtual public charter schools. ->[-Diane horvath - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:08:39-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>I SO AGREE "the best thing we can teach is for children to teach themselves" <-- they hate the effort required, but it will pay off! ->[-KerryHawk02 - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:08:41-] -->''They hate it if the work is for the sake of schooliness. But if it is for something meaningful to them, then they don't mind the work. Many of these video games are far more work than play...'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>Backchannel brought that out and provided specific resources and current data to disprove keynote - presenters should be worried! ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:08:51-] -->''Yep!'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a1c45fc3f5621eeeecb49e317d4293f9' height='25' align='left'>I though they need to learn how to solve problems in ways that they figure out on their own ->[-Tricia Harbour - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:08:53-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/11eed6d7f97a87a8697de7c898a207b9' height='25' align='left'>@ danja I agree that we need to practice do to this well but we also must recognize that we are skimming the conversations, first ->[-brodin - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:08:54-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/504633487c826101f2cbbb73c7bf7eda' height='25' align='left'>Collaborative note taking: http://bit.ly/fSinV0 ->[-Jeremy - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:08:58-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/11eed6d7f97a87a8697de7c898a207b9' height='25' align='left'>and then going deeper when a key notion arises ->[-brodin - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:09:14-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>I don't think you can send a .doc but you can certainly link to a Gdoc, blog, wiki ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:09:24-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/5c398410a508b558caeee8c323f76af5' height='25' align='left'>@joanne Sure if we continue to give students opportunities. Backchanneling is not a replacement. Just another layer of opportunity ->[-solivo11 (Steve) - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:09:27-] -->''Exactly...'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/504633487c826101f2cbbb73c7bf7eda' height='25' align='left'>Technology will never/can never replace face to face human interactivity ->[-Jeremy - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:09:46-] -->''I agree! But it does allow us to extend the face-to-face...'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/adfed7c3f41a8d4af6d037840fd44fec' height='25' align='left'>How do you see all the comments? ->[-Ranjani Sriram - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:09:53-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a51cf0f7b164e9c633ef7da61f248998' height='25' align='left'>Students need to read, write, and QUESTIOn ->[-Erin Flynn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:10:12-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/231eb4bd24f352fa7d7d9eb87dab2a5f' height='25' align='left'>Great point about the importance of literacy ->[-Adam - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:10:25-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>To catch up here, click "Stop Refresh" at top left then scroll down ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:10:27-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>collaborative notetaking seems like a great use of this tech ~thx for the link! ->[-Jenn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:10:29-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/5c398410a508b558caeee8c323f76af5' height='25' align='left'>@erin and communicate ->[-solivo11 (Steve) - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:10:42-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/11eed6d7f97a87a8697de7c898a207b9' height='25' align='left'>@ jeremy I think kids are often uncomfortable with face to face interactions, particularly if the communication is emotionally heavy ->[-brodin - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:10:55-] -->''That is a quite valid concern and research supports that students are not learning to communicate under emotional conditions.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/640ca73bfbc5fb41e72956aea1bc15af' height='25' align='left'>Yes but the PAinfully shy can enter the discussion this way. ->[-Brenda - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:11:00-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a51cf0f7b164e9c633ef7da61f248998' height='25' align='left'>@solivo agreed ->[-Erin Flynn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:11:20-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a51cf0f7b164e9c633ef7da61f248998' height='25' align='left'>I encourage my students to question me appropriately, it tells me they are listening and thinking ->[-Erin Flynn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:11:57-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a1c45fc3f5621eeeecb49e317d4293f9' height='25' align='left'>There can be a happy compromise between face to face interaction and online collaboration if we as teachers facilitate it! ->[-Tricia Harbour - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:12:01-] -->''Yes! They extend each other...'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>@ shy ones can often bring really interesting ideas to the conversation when they can "hide" a little with the technology ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:12:07-] -->''This is very true! I think that technology enables them by compensating for the reasons they are shy. For instance, perhaps they don't think on their feet very well. This sort of exchange gives them time to think through and compose their ideas.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/82aa849f885e8320c7dae1e12f3041a0' height='25' align='left'>Thanks I was wondering the same thing ->[-Jess - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:12:13-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>why should we avoid teaching kids to interact with each other face2face? ->[-Jenn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:12:24-] -->''Again, it's about extending the learning conversation, not replacing one with another.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/504633487c826101f2cbbb73c7bf7eda' height='25' align='left'>@brodin I think that is part of our job as teachers: to not just facilitate fact learning but learn how to ... (And here I lose my words) ->[-Jeremy - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:12:26-] -->''I like to say that facilitating learning is the act of crafting learning experiences through which students observe, speculate, experiment, and discover new knowledge and skills.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/5c398410a508b558caeee8c323f76af5' height='25' align='left'>@tricia -- Exactly ->[-solivo11 (Steve) - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:12:36-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>This type of backchannel is useful because it's closed and you can monitor the appropriateness of the conversation ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:12:38-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>Love this MLKjr website as an example. Have used it with kids to remind them to look for the sources of their sources. ->[-KerryHawk02 - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:13:14-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/b828e18ad5ab279815c9b7daf9aa4bf0' height='25' align='left'>I like the phrase "digital detective"....so true ->[-Elizabeth Lewis - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:13:15-] -->''I use to wear a Sherlock Holmes hat at this point.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/504633487c826101f2cbbb73c7bf7eda' height='25' align='left'>And I don't feel that being uncomfortable is always a bad thing. It helps us push our boundaries ->[-Jeremy - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:13:17-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>@ don't think we shouldn't teach them about f2f conversation, but this is another form of communication ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:13:25-] -->''Again, one extends the other -- and vica versa.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a1c45fc3f5621eeeecb49e317d4293f9' height='25' align='left'>Use dog island website to teach evaluating what is on the internet! ->[-Tricia Harbour - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:13:45-] -->''I've often suggested that you give teams of students web sites, ask them to determine if the site is valid or not. then ask them to defend their conclusion as if in court. What evidence do you have that this site is valid or bogus.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>@Elizabeth out my latest post about kids as detectives http://kerryhawk02.blogspot.com/2011/04/making-history-students-into-detectives.html ->[-KerryHawk02 - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:14:04-] -->''I love it! I think that a key part of today's pedagogy is having students defend their learning. If we want their learning to be more self-directed, then they have to be able to defend it.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/640ca73bfbc5fb41e72956aea1bc15af' height='25' align='left'>Yes... Technology can give them a voice. I am also encouraged by this site to give voice to some of our special students with severe disabil ->[-Brenda - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:14:09-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/adfed7c3f41a8d4af6d037840fd44fec' height='25' align='left'>To me this is like chalk talk ->[-Ranjani Sriram - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:14:12-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a51cf0f7b164e9c633ef7da61f248998' height='25' align='left'>There is also a fake website about dihydrogenmonoxide being a silent killer ->[-Erin Flynn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:14:16-] -->''Here's a pretty good list of bogus websites: http://goo.gl/ive5b I use to use the Aluminum Foil Beanie site.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>@Jenn And how often do we get poor or inappropriate communication from students via e-mail? ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:14:29-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>@Erin ! H20... I'll have to check that one out too. Have the link? ->[-KerryHawk02 - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:15:01-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/11eed6d7f97a87a8697de7c898a207b9' height='25' align='left'>Remember that there is alot of communication we get that is nonverbal and when having a difficult conversation, we ge info about t ->[-brodin - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:15:05-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>Check out the Pacific Northwest Tree Octopus: http://zapatopi.net/treeoctopus/ ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:15:20-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a51cf0f7b164e9c633ef7da61f248998' height='25' align='left'>@kerryhawk02 I can get it give me one second ->[-Erin Flynn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:15:25-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/11eed6d7f97a87a8697de7c898a207b9' height='25' align='left'>others feelings (I am confident about what I am saying, or tenuous about it?) that we get in the face to face ->[-brodin - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:15:52-] -->''I can attest to this. I have a severe hearing problem and get a lot of my understanding from visual clues. I many instance, I have to look at the speaker to understand what they are saying. Otherwise, it all garbled..'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a1c45fc3f5621eeeecb49e317d4293f9' height='25' align='left'>Who uses wikipedia with students? ->[-Tricia Harbour - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:16:14-] -->''If I were in the classroom, I would use it. But there would always be a second part of the activity. "Learn what Wikipedia says about this." That part one. Part two, "Now prove that what was in Wikipedia was true."'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>@Danja that one too! Tree octopus... such a rare creature! ->[-KerryHawk02 - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:16:17-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>@danja: I agree. I only fear that this will encourage kids to remain shy instead of challenge them to interact. ->[-Jenn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:16:26-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a51cf0f7b164e9c633ef7da61f248998' height='25' align='left'>@kerryhawk02 here it is: http://www.dhmo.org/ I use this with 8th grade because parents were not comfortable with what could be ->[-Erin Flynn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:16:31-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a51cf0f7b164e9c633ef7da61f248998' height='25' align='left'>found on the MLK site ->[-Erin Flynn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:16:41-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>@Tricia use wikipedia w kids. It is a good place for them the read up on background info before they do deeper research. ->[-KerryHawk02 - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:16:52-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/b828e18ad5ab279815c9b7daf9aa4bf0' height='25' align='left'>this is a good one to use: http://www.dhmo.org/ There are quite a few if you search for "spoof website" ->[-Elizabeth Lewis - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:17:06-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/5c398410a508b558caeee8c323f76af5' height='25' align='left'>@tricia -- I had students create and add content to existing novel pages on wikipedia ->[-solivo11 (Steve) - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:17:14-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>@Erin ! ->[-KerryHawk02 - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:17:16-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/adfed7c3f41a8d4af6d037840fd44fec' height='25' align='left'>I'm struggling with how kids can do this and pay attention to the teaher at the same time. ->[-Ranjani Sriram - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:17:18-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/504633487c826101f2cbbb73c7bf7eda' height='25' align='left'>@Tricia I encourage my teachers to have their students contribute to Wikipedia in class ->[-Jeremy - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:17:22-] -->''There was a story a while back about a college professor that required students to write a new article for Wikipedia on a topic from the class. They only way they could earn an "A" was to have their article featured on the front page of Wikipedia. Tough teacher.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/f67aac22865104c3200ef5f04666328f' height='25' align='left'>@Jenn- I think it is all about balance and knowing the tools available and knowing your students ->[-Nicole - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:17:34-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/b1c578c2b97ad5df2d522cc874643ff4' height='25' align='left'>@tricia - thx for website for web literacy, didnt know that one ->[-julie - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:18:05-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>I use Wikipedia with my kids - and insist they include it in their sources - if that's where they started, I'd like to know ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:18:17-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/12d7251c197e00fbfb84a0f06ed7ea0c' height='25' align='left'>@Ranjani has to happen separately. It's a process ->[-Joe Spano - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:18:27-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>wiki is a great jumping off point, not a final research destination. I use it too. ->[-Jenn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:18:38-] -->''We that depends on the nature of the research. If its scholarly research, then what you say is true. But we're not in the business of training college professors. I think that an interesting conversation for class would be, "When would Wikipedia be a good source for citing?"'' -->''I read something a while back about how often Wikipedia is being cited in scholarly research. It's a matter of learning what Wikipedia is good at and what it's not good at.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>Instead of every student using backchannel, try having a key group running conversation and 4 or 5 sitting back keeping notes and ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:18:58-] -->''I've done this before, asking the client to select five or ten tech-saavy educators do the backchannel, then make the transcript available to everyone.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>and adding links, questions in backchannel. ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:19:20-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/adfed7c3f41a8d4af6d037840fd44fec' height='25' align='left'>@Joe a process. A different way of teaching. Encourages teachers to get away from lecturing ->[-Ranjani Sriram - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:19:42-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>A representative from backchannel can share questions with the entire group ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:19:57-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a1c45fc3f5621eeeecb49e317d4293f9' height='25' align='left'>@ how I feel about it! I let them start with wiki and then prove how wiki is correct our incorrect ->[-Tricia Harbour - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:19:59-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/504633487c826101f2cbbb73c7bf7eda' height='25' align='left'>Backchannels are not for every class. ->[-Jeremy - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:20:15-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>I've seen backchannel used in FL - translation is done as a class, backchannel is for vocab/grammar/questions ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:20:35-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/82aa849f885e8320c7dae1e12f3041a0' height='25' align='left'>How do u put up a picture for your ID? ->[-Jess - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:21:01-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/5c398410a508b558caeee8c323f76af5' height='25' align='left'>Backchanneled at an assembly once -- http://steveolivo.edublogs.org/2010/03/12/microblogging-during-an-assembly/ ->[-solivo11 (Steve) - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:22:10-] -->''Cool!'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>My avatar just came up - I think it's from my Google profile, not sure how it showed up ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:22:25-] -->''If you use Gravatar, then your icon comes through your email address...'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/640ca73bfbc5fb41e72956aea1bc15af' height='25' align='left'>R we creating attention deficit for all? ->[-Brenda - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:22:47-] -->''Interesting. Are attention deficits merely "hunters" in a "farmer" world? Me we be shifting back to hunters and gatherers, the game being information.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/504633487c826101f2cbbb73c7bf7eda' height='25' align='left'>@jess you need to create a Gravatar account ->[-Jeremy - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:23:14-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/82aa849f885e8320c7dae1e12f3041a0' height='25' align='left'>Okay thanks! ->[-Jess - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:23:21-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/5c398410a508b558caeee8c323f76af5' height='25' align='left'>@brenda - Maybe...but maybe we're also adapting/shifting to something different ->[-solivo11 (Steve) - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:24:04-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a51cf0f7b164e9c633ef7da61f248998' height='25' align='left'>@Brenda, no but we have created teachers using texting language =) ->[-Erin Flynn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:24:12-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/9249a79a738de3d04d6a26e1ff4f289f' height='25' align='left'>numbers tell a story ->[-Kathy - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:24:32-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/adfed7c3f41a8d4af6d037840fd44fec' height='25' align='left'>@ someone said earlier this is not for all. As a teacher you have to decide if you're students are ready for this ->[-Ranjani Sriram - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:24:33-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/12d7251c197e00fbfb84a0f06ed7ea0c' height='25' align='left'>The tough part is educating the teachers who then have to pass along the message to students. Not everyone is as progressive ->[-Joe Spano - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:24:56-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>how do I get out of this knitter chat so I can sign in again with a new email address.... no "sign out" available ->[-KerryHawk02 - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:25:05-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/82aa849f885e8320c7dae1e12f3041a0' height='25' align='left'>It is a great Way to understand hOw r frieNds with ADHD feel ands ->[-Jess - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:25:11-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>Are we creating a world of multitasking or are we responding to that trend and incorporating it into our classrooms? ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:25:33-] -->''Good Question!'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/b1c578c2b97ad5df2d522cc874643ff4' height='25' align='left'>this would also be great to connect a few classrooms at a time to have a conversation in real time ->[-julie - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:25:57-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/640ca73bfbc5fb41e72956aea1bc15af' height='25' align='left'>Has anyone seen Dr. Maryanne Wolfe's work on the reading brain, how this type of technology change is physically changing the human brain.. ->[-Brenda - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:25:59-] -->''I love Wolfe's work...'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>@ "logout" at the top? ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:26:05-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/82aa849f885e8320c7dae1e12f3041a0' height='25' align='left'>Oops! I sent it out before I was done! Can u delete what you wrote or is it like the toothpaste thing? ->[-Jess - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:26:44-] -->''You can delete it in the here!'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>don't have a "log out" at the top.... do you? ->[-KerryHawk02 - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:26:53-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/adfed7c3f41a8d4af6d037840fd44fec' height='25' align='left'>@Danja know this is how the next gen communicates ->[-Ranjani Sriram - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:26:56-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/640ca73bfbc5fb41e72956aea1bc15af' height='25' align='left'>@ idea ->[-Brenda - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:27:01-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>what do you do with that tag cloud? what good is it? ->[-Jenn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:27:20-] -->''It gives you a general, though not necessarily a true, look at the gist of the document, in a way that reading it sequential may not work. I like Tag Crowd, because it is just about the information. I lot of people use Wordle (http://wordle.net/), though it is more about a pretty affect than true information analysis. I use Wordle as well, but more for affect.'' -->''IBM's Many Eyes project (Google it) has a variety of similar tools. Sometimes I will demonstrate "phrase clouds" by dumping "Pride & Predjudice" into it, and then producing an graphic that shows all of the phrases in the book based on connecting words, i.e. and, or, possessive ('s), with, etc. Very interesting analysis. '' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/5c398410a508b558caeee8c323f76af5' height='25' align='left'>@brenda -- Heard something last week about multitasking and the brain -- Was that Maryanne Wolfe's study? ->[-solivo11 (Steve) - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:27:30-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>I use Wordle the same way he uses this other tool. Great way to analyze primary sources... ahve been doing it for a while. ->[-KerryHawk02 - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:27:38-] <img src='http://davidwarlick.com/images1/twitter-20101016-163258.jpg' align='left'>How do we teach teachers to pass technology literacy to students? HT:idave0415 HT:blueribbon ->[-KerryHawk02 - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:27:37-] -->''There are a number of ways to answer that question, but I'll go back to the main thrust of my presentation. Forget about the tech literacy and focus on the "learning literacy." Get teachers in the habit of using today's prevailing information environment to learn, and then they can pass it on to the students, within the same context. I know that sounds simpler than it is, but it's entirely about the culture / learning culture of the school.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/640ca73bfbc5fb41e72956aea1bc15af' height='25' align='left'>@solivo11Not sure ->[-Brenda - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:28:15-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>Wordle and Tagxedo allow you to visually look at text, good for analyzing poetry or FL vocab practice ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:28:28-] -->''Tagxedo is another one for looks, and that is by no means bad. But if it simply analysis of information, then simpler is better.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/12d7251c197e00fbfb84a0f06ed7ea0c' height='25' align='left'>Tag clouds are essentially visualized data. You can see trends, changes, etc. Shows content in a different light ->[-Joe Spano - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:28:52-] -->''I do a presentation now about information visualization. There is actually a fairly interesting classification of various visualization techniques. Word clouds are a form of "information visualization." There is also scientific visualization, data visualization, and others. It's a very cool topic and something you'll be hearing a lot more about in the future. Infographics may be the next cool thing in ed tech.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>Students can put own writing into word cloud and see what words are getting over-used ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:29:34-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/504633487c826101f2cbbb73c7bf7eda' height='25' align='left'>I've never used Intuem, but you can do all this with GarageBand, too ->[-Jeremy - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:30:09-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a1c45fc3f5621eeeecb49e317d4293f9' height='25' align='left'>I prefer garage band ->[-Tricia Harbour - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:30:49-] -->'':-)'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>don't you visually analyze text by reading the text? Idk, I feel like a Luddite, lol ->[-Jenn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:31:05-] -->''Hmmm! Interesting question. When you're reading, you are visualizing the story. And in most cases that is enough. But a word cloud visualizes the text of that story. I often say that this (word clouds) does not replace reading. It is simply a way of putting a different lens on the information. If the digital textbook of the future had this sort of function, might looking at a word cloud of a chapter be a good way to be introduced to that chapter?'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/504633487c826101f2cbbb73c7bf7eda' height='25' align='left'>@idave Case in point: Backchatter competes with presentation ->[-Jeremy - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:32:07-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>@ taking a dense poem and putting into Wordle - those who struggle with text will visualize in a different way ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:32:18-] -->''Look at the word cloud at the beginning of this transcript. Does it say anything about this conversation. To me, it says something that "students" appears to be the most used word and that "communication" and "conversations" are roughly the same size as "technology," and "conversation" (singular) is larger than each of them.'' -->''I often compare use of "learn" and "teach." In this transcript, "learn" was used 22 times and "teach" was used 33 times. I'd like to see learning out pace teaching.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/b1c578c2b97ad5df2d522cc874643ff4' height='25' align='left'>but how do we compete in the classroom for their attention w all the technology? ->[-julie - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:33:59-] -->''What I finally learned, after finishing school, was that the world I had been learning about was an intensely exciting place. Through the technology, that's what competes, and rich and wondrous world of discovery and opportunity.'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>@ isn't for everyday or every lesson, but it has a place - if we can support with tech ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:35:44-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>@'ve also used it with historical speeches. Kids are often unfamiliar with the language and it helps them get the main idea.... ->[-KerryHawk02 - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:35:55-] -->''Yes! In a way, it's like turning history into a science. The speech becomes a specimen that you experiment on, dissect, so to speak'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>@Jenn ...before they get overwhelmed by the words they do not recognize. ->[-KerryHawk02 - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:36:28-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/b1c578c2b97ad5df2d522cc874643ff4' height='25' align='left'>@ danja -- great idea for poetry! ->[-julie - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:36:56-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/b1c578c2b97ad5df2d522cc874643ff4' height='25' align='left'>@ danja -- great idea for poetry! ->[-julie - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:36:57-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>@Danja: I'll try it after break. I'm not convinced it teaches the analytical skills I want, but other ways of looking at text are always ++ ->[-Jenn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:37:08-] -->''But what I think is the most powerful thing about this sort of graphical representation has more to do with the questions that they provoke than the knowledge that they convey. "So what's left out?" "What questions does this not answer?" "What additional information would you need to answer those questions?"'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a1c45fc3f5621eeeecb49e317d4293f9' height='25' align='left'>So true, thay music gave me child ->[-Tricia Harbour - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:37:23-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a1c45fc3f5621eeeecb49e317d4293f9' height='25' align='left'>Oops I meant chills not child lol ->[-Tricia Harbour - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:37:41-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>@Kerry: also good point. might make Shakespeare less daunting ->[-Jenn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:39:35-] -->''Somebody told me recently that what makes Shakespeare daunting is that it was never written to be read. It was written to be watched. Why do we believe that to be educated, you must read Shakespeare?'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'> <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>This conversation will be available after the keynote - not just whispers or notes on paper that disappear ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:42:24-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>Resources and TIME. when will we get them? ->[-Jenn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:43:01-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>@ is the question, isn't it? And even with the resources, w/o support and TIME to play we won't use them ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:44:34-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e' height='25' align='left'>These can be such great tools. I hope we are given the chance to adapt them effectively. ->[-Jenn - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:44:46-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/82aa849f885e8320c7dae1e12f3041a0' height='25' align='left'>I am not afraid! ->[-Jess - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:44:52-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0e219025657ed5622100aac2c328895c' height='25' align='left'>Thanks for an interesting conversation, everyone! ->[-Danja Mahoney - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:46:10-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/504633487c826101f2cbbb73c7bf7eda' height='25' align='left'>@danja ditto! ->[-Jeremy - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:47:37-] <img src='http://davidwarlick.com/images1/twitter-20101016-163258.jpg' align='left'>David Warlick is presenting at the Blue Ribbon conference for the Reading Public Schools. HT:idave0415 ->[-Jeremy - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:53:49-] <img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/746f3521e9e31eda012ae4c3f6c4fdc9' height='25' align='left'>Great presentation. Lots to think about, here! ->[-Amy ropple - 15 Apr 2011 - 9:57:24-] |