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Here is the transcript of your backchannel conversation for the Engaging Digital Learner Series, October 19, 2011. This is a wiki page. As such, you can edit this page and insert text into the transcript, contining the conversation, as I have done. To edit, click the EDIT link at the top of the page. The password is teacher. Deleted lines 74-75:
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Yes, I was amazed. The food was great, but still... - dfw
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It's an ongoing experiment. I only recently added the Twitter capture function. Twitter didn't make that easy for me. Then again, I'm a self-trained programmer -- learning it as I go along. - dfw
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Master Learners pay more attention to the questions. In a technology-rich, information driven world, it's the quality of the question that determines the quality of the answers. That's a good line. I'll have to remember that one ;-) - dfw
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Hmmm! It's fuel that helps us accomplish goals. But you make a good point. I would suggest that we are media spoiled. I heard a woman, in a TED talk a while back say something to the effect that, "It is during those times that we are alone with our own thoughts that we are becoming ourselves." I think there's a lot of truth to this, and I for one, spend to little time not plugged in. - dfw
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Yes! We as educators need to do it -- and we need to do it infront of our learners. It's why I advocate teachers managing their own digital textbooks. When they/we find and select material for our students, we are practicing contemporary literacy, and we're modeling it in front of class. - dfw
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Full quote: "20th century education was defined by its limits. 21st century literacy needs to be defined by its lack of limits." - dfw
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It's a good question and a huge problem. One point I may have made is that some countries have decided that it was in their national interest for every citizen to have access to today's prevailing information environment. Finland, South Korea, and Mecadonia to mention only a few. The problem is a national one, not a classroom problem. - dfw
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Yes! I would put it like this though (and it's a personal preference): "''The library needs to become a working commons where student naturally develop responsible literacy skills. - dfw
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The actual term is "native" information experience. My information experience was paper based, encyclopedias, textbooks, baseball cards, and magazines. The "native" is based on networked, digital, and abundant information that is highly interactive and malleable. It's a raw material.
The term native is based on Marc Prensky's 2001 article that describes digital natives and digital immigrants. - dfw
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I think that programming is the best way to learn math. Programming involves using math to work numbers, rather than just doing math. - dfw
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I think that's true. But I don't know of any research that shows this. - dfw
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It's similar to how Logo is used, and there's a ton of research that support it. - dfw
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I just tweeted, Is motivation a means to learning, or should it be part of our goal? If so, then what are the means to motivated learning''? - dfw
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Excellent point. Look at the book, Drive, by Dan Pink (author of "A Whole New Mind.") - dfw
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Interesting statement. Certainly content comes from conversation, and it's use involves conversation. - dfw
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Hmmm! I would say that any question that is not an honest question (with intent in mind), is a stupid question ;-) - dfw
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Lots of examples. - dfw
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Well yes. But the question asking that I'm thinking of is smaller than the project problem or essential question. It's the questions that occur in the process of getting there. Those questions fuel/empower learning. - dfw
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I like to say that it empowers the learner. - dfw
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I'd love to be able to say that anything and everything that students learn in your classroom must be something that they can use right now. That's probably reaching, but it's how and why we learn in the real world. Because we can use it. - dfw
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..and defend their learning. "Why did you learn that, that way?" "How do you know that is true?" ;-) - dfw
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Interesting! I would say that today's dynamic information landscape with both narrow and broad channels have greatly expanded and diversified grammar. Does that make sense? - dfw
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Outstanding. There was a study a few years ago, where one history class was taught the American Civil War, and another worked in groups to produce multimedia presentations about the Civil War, which the presented to each other. End of the unit test scores were similar. However, when the students were given the test a year later, those who were taught, scored much much lower than they had. Those who taught themselves and each other, their scores remained hight. - dfw
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And clarity matters, because there's an audience. - dfw
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Right! - dfw
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In silicon valley, entrepreneurs who have failed before get preference over those who haven't failed yet by venture capitalists. - dfw
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It's learning by working the information. It's learning by students doing the work, not the teacher doing all the work. - dfw
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I read the other day that a technology historian (Canadian) has show that much of the innovation of the post-war (WWII) period was actually based on a backlog innovations that occurred during the latter part of the 1930s. - dfw
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Yes! What kind of learning experience prompt us to less often say, "That's the right answer," and more often have us saying, "That's a great idea." - dfw
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Play is a problematic term. Some people (educators) believe that learning should be about work, not play. But work can be playful. How many of us consider our jobs fun? I do! Do you? - dfw
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Well said. Resourceful, relentless, and habitual learners result from courageous teachers. - dfw
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I would go so far as to say that what we learn has become less important that how we learned it. What we learn is going to change :-) - dfw
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OK, you shouldn't have said that. You're right, media literacy is paramount. But I think it may be more useful to just talk about one literacy, the skills involved in responsibly using information to accomplish goals. More often, I'm starting to call it learning literacy, the skills involved in using information to learn what you need to know. Media literacy is paramount to this concept. But I think we need one literacy -- that includes everything involving information. - dfw
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20 Oct 2011 - 2:38:13 Thanks for a fantastic conversation. I love working in Canada. I just wish crossing the boarder wasn't so complicated. - dfw
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Hope I didn't disappoint! - dfw
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This was part of the afternoon conversation, where I respelled the three Rs, to the four Es. Literacy today expands from Reasing to the ability to Expose what's true, aRithmetic expands into the ability to work number to Employ information, and Ricing expands into skills involved in Expressing ideas compellingly. And then there's the Ethical use of information - dfw
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It's a big question. But it frustrates me when people say, look for grants, because we are institutionalizing our begging for money. Funding to prepare a society's children for their future should not have to be begged for, even in the worst of times.. - dfw
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That's my definition of "rigor" -- one that works for me. - dfw
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Yes, they're learning to do digital information, but it's not fully transforming classroom learning -- and doing so is not an intuitive leap. - dfw
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It's how my vocational ed classes were taught when I was in high school. In the industrial age, industrial arts skills were taught by helping us make something. In the information age, information arts skills should be taught the same way, and for the same reasons. - dfw
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Heidi Hayes Jacobs has called it "public learning." I like that. - dfw
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David Warlick
Testing Twitter Capture!
19 Oct 2011 - 18:11:16