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->That was actually kind'a embarrassing. At least it's easier than it use to be. I am planning to add a feature where I can enter a Twitter hash tag and it will automatically start fetching related Tweets as well as the Knitter chat. The code is in to do that, but I have to hard code the hash tag. I need to be able to just type it into the setup web page. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->That was actually kind'a embarrassing. At least it's easier than it use to be. I am planning to add a feature where I can enter a Twitter hash tag and it will automatically start fetching related Tweets as well as the Knitter chat. The code is in to do that, but I have to hard code the hash tag. I need to be able to just type it into the setup web page. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->I do not have the statistics, but I suspect that it is declining, though I wouldn't say that it is going to fade away. It is a valid and valuable idea that simply hasn't found it true traction yet. ..and when I say Second Life, I actually mean virtual worlds as a whole. I can't say where SL will be five years from now. But I suspect that many of us (especially as my generation gets older and less mobile, will be spending time in these virtual worlds. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->I do not have the statistics, but I suspect that it is declining, though I wouldn't say that it is going to fade away. It is a valid and valuable idea that simply hasn't found it true traction yet. ..and when I say Second Life, I actually mean virtual worlds as a whole. I can't say where SL will be five years from now. But I suspect that many of us (especially as my generation gets older and less mobile, will be spending time in these virtual worlds. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->But what seems especially compelling to me is where students are learning by responsibly building in 3D worlds. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->But what seems especially compelling to me is where students are learning by responsibly building in 3D worlds. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->You know, if I am willing to admit that I, an expert, am also a learner, then I actually rejoice when there are problems, because you are watching me, an expert, deal and learn on the fly. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->You know, if I am willing to admit that I, an expert, am also a learner, then I actually rejoice when there are problems, because you are watching me, an expert, deal and learn on the fly. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->He will be my generations Thomas Edison -- or whom ever you want to use as an icon of an age. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->He will be my generations Thomas Edison -- or whom ever you want to use as an icon of an age. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->To be honest, I do not really enjoy it. I enjoy building there, but just being there and exploring does not thrill me. However, as I suggested above, it may be a place I spend a lot of time in when I am much older. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->To be honest, I do not really enjoy it. I enjoy building there, but just being there and exploring does not thrill me. However, as I suggested above, it may be a place I spend a lot of time in when I am much older. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->Yes! So what kind of rooms and lines will encourage that creativity in stead of squelch it. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->Yes! So what kind of rooms and lines will encourage that creativity in stead of squelch it. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->Another question is what will we do with children, in an age of innovation, who do very well in rows. The kids who do not like 1:1 arrangements are those who are very good at being students -- but not so good at being learners. see http://goo.gl/qOxZ - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->Another question is what will we do with children, in an age of innovation, who do very well in rows. The kids who do not like 1:1 arrangements are those who are very good at being students -- but not so good at being learners. see http://goo.gl/qOxZ - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->SL has its insidious side, which is why it's not for the kids. But I hangout mostly on the education related islands and almost never see stuff like that happen. I can think of only one session, and that was when I was serving on a panel in an virtual global conference and a nude woman strolled in and stood in front of poor Ewan MacIntosh. It flustered him a bit. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->SL has its insidious side, which is why it's not for the kids. But I hangout mostly on the education related islands and almost never see stuff like that happen. I can think of only one session, and that was when I was serving on a panel in an virtual global conference and a nude woman strolled in and stood in front of poor Ewan MacIntosh. It flustered him a bit. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->Part of it, I believe, is redefining teachers as "master learners." Teachers who celebrate their own learning have permission to take risks and learn with and like their learners. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->Part of it, I believe, is redefining teachers as "master learners." Teachers who celebrate their own learning have permission to take risks and learn with and like their learners. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->I very rarely go there -- only when I'm asked to teach or speak there. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->I very rarely go there -- only when I'm asked to teach or speak there. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->As I said in my first presentation, ''"20th century education was defined by its limits. 21st century education will be defined by its lack of limits."'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->As I said in my first presentation, ''"20th century education was defined by its limits. 21st century education will be defined by its lack of limits."'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->This is an ongoing problem that I think that time will solve. In this year's "Speak Out" survey, students, for the first time, did not say that lack of technology was their greatest barrier to effective use of digital networked learning. It was the blocking of content by their schools' networks. This, in my opinion, corrupts the definition of ''school''. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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->This is an ongoing problem that I think that time will solve. In this year's "Speak Out" survey, students, for the first time, did not say that lack of technology was their greatest barrier to effective use of digital networked learning. It was the blocking of content by their schools' networks. This, in my opinion, corrupts the definition of ''school''. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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<img src="http://davidwarlick.com/images1/Wordle_-_Create-20111007-062305.png" align="right" />Thanks for fixing knitter chat on the fly!

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October 08, 2011, at 09:05 AM EST by Warlick -

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~~The future site for the NCSA~~ backchannel conversation...

<img src="http://davidwarlick.~~com/images1/Wordle_-_Create-20111007-062305.png" align="right" />Here's the word cloud for your backchannel. I plan to comment on~~ the ~~actual transcript during my flight home today~~.

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Here is the transcript of your backchannel conversation for . This is a wiki page. As such, you can edit this page and insert text into the transcript, contining the conversation, as I have done. To edit, click the EDIT link at the top of the page. The password is ''teacher''.

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<img src="http://davidwarlick.com/images1/Wordle_-_Create-20111007-062305.png" align="right" />Thanks for fixing knitter chat on the fly!
5 Oct 2011 - 20:09:05

->That was actually kind'a embarrassing. At least it's easier than it use to be. I am planning to add a feature where I can enter a Twitter hash tag and it will automatically start fetching related Tweets as well as the Knitter chat. The code is in to do that, but I have to hard code the hash tag. I need to be able to just type it into the setup web page. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Works now
5 Oct 2011 - 20:09:43

I am wondering if Second Life is gaining users or fading away?
5 Oct 2011 - 20:09:46

->I do not have the statistics, but I suspect that it is declining, though I wouldn't say that it is going to fade away. It is a valid and valuable idea that simply hasn't found it true traction yet. ..and when I say Second Life, I actually mean virtual worlds as a whole. I can't say where SL will be five years from now. But I suspect that many of us (especially as my generation gets older and less mobile, will be spending time in these virtual worlds. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Students learning in a 3D learning environment. Cool!
5 Oct 2011 - 20:10:19

->But what seems especially compelling to me is where students are learning by responsibly building in 3D worlds. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Shows people who present that is ok to fix links on the fly
5 Oct 2011 - 20:10:32

->You know, if I am willing to admit that I, an expert, am also a learner, then I actually rejoice when there are problems, because you are watching me, an expert, deal and learn on the fly. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

How sad that Steve Jobs has passed away. :-(
5 Oct 2011 - 20:12:03

->He will be my generations Thomas Edison -- or whom ever you want to use as an icon of an age. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

I don't think I have time to have a 2nd life.
5 Oct 2011 - 20:12:21

->To be honest, I do not really enjoy it. I enjoy building there, but just being there and exploring does not thrill me. However, as I suggested above, it may be a place I spend a lot of time in when I am much older. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

The creative peak in a human's life is at five years old - when we are told to sit in rows and stand in lines.........
5 Oct 2011 - 20:12:38

->Yes! So what kind of rooms and lines will encourage that creativity in stead of squelch it. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

How do we prepare students who will not sit in rows?
5 Oct 2011 - 20:13:35

->Another question is what will we do with children, in an age of innovation, who do very well in rows. The kids who do not like 1:1 arrangements are those who are very good at being students -- but not so good at being learners. see http://goo.gl/qOxZ - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

When we had 2nd life training my avatar walked past a bldg and her clothes fell off!
5 Oct 2011 - 20:14:00

->SL has its insidious side, which is why it's not for the kids. But I hangout mostly on the education related islands and almost never see stuff like that happen. I can think of only one session, and that was when I was serving on a panel in an virtual global conference and a nude woman strolled in and stood in front of poor Ewan MacIntosh. It flustered him a bit. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

How do we prepare teachers to teach in those environments?
5 Oct 2011 - 20:14:03

->Part of it, I believe, is redefining teachers as "master learners." Teachers who celebrate their own learning have permission to take risks and learn with and like their learners. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

So I haven't been back!
5 Oct 2011 - 20:14:34

->I very rarely go there -- only when I'm asked to teach or speak there. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Those are the free thinkers - but the price for a teacher is to expand the walls of the classroom
5 Oct 2011 - 20:14:53

->As I said in my first presentation, ''"20th century education was defined by its limits. 21st century education will be defined by its lack of limits."'' - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Hard to teach how to manage digital resources when so many of them are blocked at school!
5 Oct 2011 - 20:16:43

->This is an ongoing problem that I think that time will solve. In this year's "Speak Out" survey, students, for the first time, did not say that lack of technology was their greatest barrier to effective use of digital networked learning. It was the blocking of content by their schools' networks. This, in my opinion, corrupts the definition of ''school''. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

We do have to find a way to embrace technolgy
5 Oct 2011 - 20:17:19

->In one of my keynotes on literacy, I suggest that we should ''stop integrating technology, and instead integrate literacy.'' It seems to me that if we can convince people that the dramatic shifts in the nature ofinformation have changed, and changed what it means to be literate, then the technology comes along simply because it is the pencil and paper of our time. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Tech..........well you know what I mean :)
5 Oct 2011 - 20:17:59

Gps toe rings?
5 Oct 2011 - 20:19:35

What would Steve Jobs have done with another 30 years?
5 Oct 2011 - 20:20:34

->Just before our flight took off, I ran across an Onion piece titled, "''The Last American Who Knew What the F#ck He was Doing, has Died.''" This says a lot of what I've been feeling over the past day. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

School leaders: we need you to support open use of tech resources vs blocking and restricting.
5 Oct 2011 - 20:20:40

->What if, instead, we relied on the teachers. What if you blocked suspect content, but enable teachers to temporarily password through the web sites that they have decided their students should use. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

@Corey would be creative for sure
5 Oct 2011 - 20:21:12

->In my yesterday morning <a href="http://blog.idave.us/" target="_blank"> Work</a> blog entry, I suggested that if we truly valued the legacy of innovation attributed to Steve Jobs, then we would almost completely redesign American education. We are producing a generation of compliant conforming students, when we should be raising a generation of relentless, creatively resourceful, and habitual learners. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Great comment Lynne...and so true.
5 Oct 2011 - 20:21:20

->I just realized that for some reason, this transcript has omitted your names. I apologize for that. I guess I need to crawl back into the code and work on it a bit. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Because they get to college with no practice in self control and good decision re:tech use in class. No filters at college or home!
5 Oct 2011 - 20:22:31

->We have so far to go! - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

With so many new, younger administrators, there will be greater acceptance.
5 Oct 2011 - 20:22:44

->I think that is true and I'm seeing it. I commented to Kelly how encouraged I was to see such enthusiasm during the preconference workshop and so many examples of administrators engaged in self learning and collaborative learning. I thought that the ESU folks did a fantastic job of presenting the basics of the iPad. But it didn't and couldn't come close to the effectiveness of time and a childlike willingness to just play with the devices. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

I often wonder what education will be like for my grandson. Different? I hope so.
5 Oct 2011 - 20:22:58

->I just hope that we (a public education institution) is still a part of it. My fear is that we will become increasingly irrelevant to the needs of young learners, and that we lose out to market (and political) pressures. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

we need to prepare our students for a digital world that we cannot even describe or imagaine. That is an unbelieveable challenge!
5 Oct 2011 - 20:23:03

->But a simple solution. Focus more on the learning and less on the teaching. Empower learning instead of empowering teaching. I hope that my distinction is clear. A friend of mine who teaching in an international school in Korea uses the term ''schooliness.'' He suggests, and I agree, that we should become less ''schoolie.'' (I think that's how he spells it ;-) - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Leaders need to know, use, and encourage teachers to embrace technology.
5 Oct 2011 - 20:23:56

->Leaders need to cultivate a culture of learning in their schools. It's an old sentiment, but when we try to impliment learning culture, are we focusing on teaching or on learning. I think that one way to accomplish learning culture is to emphasize teacher learning, what and how teachers are learning new things about their course subjects and also about other interests. I've written and revised a blog post called <a href="http://davidwarlick.com/2cents/?p=2777" target="_blank"> 10+ Ways to Promote a Learning Culture in your School </a> - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Stories are valuable - so agree with that
5 Oct 2011 - 20:24:21

->The problem is that there is an old story about education in America, one that is reinforced by the 13+ years of experience that we all share, culturally, about teaching and classrooms. We need a new story that is short, clear, and so compelling that it shatters the old notions of the 19th century classroom. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

How will our children interact with the world in the future?
5 Oct 2011 - 20:24:26

->An incredibly interesting question. I've wondered about the future of the Israel / Palestine conflict, when so many Israeli children and Palestinian children have friended each other on Facebook. Think about it! - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

http://www.flickr.com/photos/coreydahl/5596496471/in/photostream
5 Oct 2011 - 20:25:10

Our children will interact digitally. They need to learn these skills now! In our classrooms not outside them.
5 Oct 2011 - 20:25:55

->Y E S ! Outside the classroom, the learn to play digital, networked, and abundant information. They need us to teach them how to responsibly work the information. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Amen Mary!
5 Oct 2011 - 20:26:30

I agree, Mary. We need to teach them to be responsible digital citizens.
5 Oct 2011 - 20:27:56

We have to remind ourselves that our students are not us
5 Oct 2011 - 20:29:45

Seems like music, art, and drama get axed when going gets tough
5 Oct 2011 - 20:30:02

->It's because we think of it as fluff, that the creative arts have more to do with make our children more well-rounded. I and others maintain that creative arts are as critical to economic development as science, technology, engineering and math.

-->I've become especially interested in the potentials of using Infographics in the classroom. Asking students to create infographics based on data from the social or scientific world enables a unique integration of content areas, mathematics, and art/design. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Great point to prepare students for jobs that support things we purchase. Arts and entertainment just as important as stem!
5 Oct 2011 - 20:30:22

Kids are connected 24-7 outside of school. Why do we disconnect them in the classroom. Let's find ways to harness this connectivity.
5 Oct 2011 - 20:32:50

->You know, it's almost like allowing our students to bring their hyperconnectivity in causes our classrooms to leak -- and that threatens us. Again, "21st century education should be defined by its lack of limits." - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Hey - fresh air was also good if the TV had nothing on.
5 Oct 2011 - 20:33:34

->YES! This is a problem, that children spend so little time outside. We need to fix that problem. But we need to avoid doing it by villainizing their hyper-connectivity. We need to figure out how to make them want to go outside. ..and don't stop there. How do we make adults, young and old, want to go outside. I'd love to see some sort of low pressure sports leagues emerge for all ages. Two-hand touch anyone? - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

He learned...because he is connected
5 Oct 2011 - 20:34:13

->He learned because he's a part of a community. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Many schools only a allow access to testing and drill and practice programs on computers. Few creative tools allowed or used.
5 Oct 2011 - 20:35:41

->It's the nature of an education institution that values recall over thinking. No Child Left Behind and Race to the Top are "industrial age solutions to information age problems." The came/come from leaders who still invasion smoke stacks as America's economic future. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

It is not about tech -it is about info - yes!
5 Oct 2011 - 20:39:30

"Networked, digital, abundant environment"
5 Oct 2011 - 20:40:02

->In another keynote I suggest that a networked information environment expands what it means to be a reader, digital information expands what it means to be a processor of numbers, and abundant (overwhelming) information expands what it means to be a writer/communicator. It respells the 3Rs. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

How the information is presented is important too - quality /speed/impact
5 Oct 2011 - 20:40:23

->Compellingness as well. When information is overwhelming, then information must compete for attention. It's why students must learn to communicate with images, sound, video and animation at the same time that they are learning to write. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

New term: machinema.
5 Oct 2011 - 20:41:07

->Search machinima on YouTube. You'll be amazed. It's actually become a new genre of entertainment. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Our teachers need access to learning outside of the school walls as well. If we block their learning how can they meet the needs of kids.
5 Oct 2011 - 20:41:45

->YES! This comes back to the learning culture concept. One of the sessions I would live to have done at your conference is called A Gardener's Approach to Learning. It's also the title of my latest book. It's about the professional learning that happens as teachers begin to create and cultivate personal learning networks (PLNs) using RSS aggregators, Twitter, Facebook and now Google+. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Part of the value of content is what you can do with it.
5 Oct 2011 - 20:41:48

I am concerned that kids can't discern an authoritative source.
5 Oct 2011 - 20:44:44

->We have to help them learn by expecting them to be responsible. Again, as I said during the evening presentation, that when my students turn in a paper, they are simply waiting for me to ask, "How do you know that's true." They would have to be ready with the evidence (authority if you will) of the information's appropriateness. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

@Lynne an issue
5 Oct 2011 - 20:45:32

Are we teaching them to discern info? Do our teachers know how to discern authority online themselves?
5 Oct 2011 - 20:46:12

->Now that's an important question. I would suggest that the textbook should and will evolve into something that teachers create and adapt for themselves, using tools such as Moodle (and other platforms that haven't been created yet). When teachers are selecting the content that their students will read and work, they are practicing contemporary literacy in front of their kids, teaching by modeling. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Teach critical reading skills???? What a novel idea...
5 Oct 2011 - 20:51:00

->Teach it and then expect it -- make the students responsible for it. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Who vets other sources? Who vetted the CNN stories you saw today?
5 Oct 2011 - 20:51:04

->I'm not promoting Wikipedia as a source that's better than anything else, but if you think about it, is any content source more vetted than Wikipedia. I added an article a few years ago, and less then six minutes after I added it, it had already been reviewed and flagged for deletion. It stayed with that warning, and as others added to the article, it eventually was accepted as a valid Wikipedia topic. But the initial evaluation was swift. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

*sigh*
5 Oct 2011 - 20:52:47

We all should read this book. Web literacy for educators. -Alan November
5 Oct 2011 - 20:53:46

->It's a great book. But I object to the notion he implies in the title that web literacy is any different from just plain literacy. Literacy, to me, is the skills involved in using information to accomplish goals. We don't need two literacies or three or ten. We need to focus on one notion of literacy that covers all forms of communication. One literacy, what I call contemporary literacy is easier to sell and implement than 10 or two. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Overwhelmed? All the time
5 Oct 2011 - 20:53:51

Also...our information is always changing, evolving, and we have instant access to it. How quickly did we learn about Steve Jobs?
5 Oct 2011 - 20:53:52

->Yeah! What's it do to testing, when the answers are constantly changing. ;-) - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

http://www.amazon.com/Web-Literacy-Educators-Alan-November/dp/1412958431
5 Oct 2011 - 20:53:54

->Again, it's a great book. You might also consider my book, "<a href="http://davidwarlick.com/2cents/?page_id=2670" target="_blank">Redefining Literacy</a>." - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

@Corey it. Read it. Good stuff
5 Oct 2011 - 20:54:17

Thanks, Corey! Taht is an awesome resource.
5 Oct 2011 - 20:54:38

Alan November's book explains how to decipher web sites addresses...among other great things.
5 Oct 2011 - 20:55:09

->Alan often calls it Web Grammar, and it makes sense. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Will order tonight Corey! And loan out copies. In multiple formats!
5 Oct 2011 - 20:55:10

That whole "being cautious" thing, and not believing everything you're told still hold true.
5 Oct 2011 - 20:55:37

->As I said in the presentation, "I was taught to assume the authority of the information I read. We need to teach students today to prove the authority." - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

I am not afraid
5 Oct 2011 - 20:57:03

Thank you, David!
5 Oct 2011 - 20:57:11

Thanks for the thoughtful presentation!
5 Oct 2011 - 20:57:28

Yes, CN. And to consider if things we held as true in the past were indeed true.
5 Oct 2011 - 20:57:41

Thank you David. I am not afraid!
5 Oct 2011 - 20:58:25

It is a great day to be alive and well.
6 Oct 2011 - 9:32:48

Love the current tools you use in your presentation!
6 Oct 2011 - 9:41:56

We are teaching in information abundance
6 Oct 2011 - 9:43:37

what is the name of the chrome qr generator extension?
6 Oct 2011 - 9:44:25

->It's called "QR Code Extension" There are a number of them, but I like the fact that I can expand this one to nearly full screen. You have to be fairly close to a QR Code for it to work on your smart phone. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Do teachers still teach in an information-scarce environment?
6 Oct 2011 - 9:45:23

->Sadly, many do, and the try to keep their classrooms information scarce. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Lynne Herr
6 Oct 2011 - 9:46:36

A school network should not be seen as a barrier - it is a culture
6 Oct 2011 - 9:47:14

oops. hazard of working from phone sized screen.
6 Oct 2011 - 9:47:46

->I feel your pain! - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Do any schools use Scratch in Nebraska?
6 Oct 2011 - 9:53:59

wish scratch would be part of computer apps courses but sp far no teachers i shared it with have given it a try with kids
6 Oct 2011 - 9:54:13

->I've often wondered if programming should be viewed as a literacy skill. Not that everyone should be a programmer. But being knowledgable of the concept of communicating with a computer using its language has been very important to me. I'm increadabily luck to have started using computers before you could buy software for them. If you wanted your computer to do something interesting, you had to program it yourself. It's helped to define my career (ex: KnitterChat). - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

When student blog, it becomes less a writing assignment and more a conversation.
6 Oct 2011 - 9:59:36

We need to think about using Responsive experiences with students (blogs)
6 Oct 2011 - 10:00:18

My kids learn using Minecraft and posting Lego creations on a a YouTube channel...at home.
6 Oct 2011 - 10:02:36

->Minecraft is an excellent example, because the responsiveness is the structure they build, what they do worked or it didn't work. YouTube takes it to the next level, because people can comment on their creations. 

->There are some educators across the U.S. who are experimenting with developing curriculum around World of Warcraft. One, in North Carolina, is doing the same thing with Mindcraft. His name is Lucas Gulespie. You might Google "WOW Curriculum." - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Google has turned us into a question-asking culture
6 Oct 2011 - 10:04:14

Conversation, information...let our students experience life within the classroom.
6 Oct 2011 - 10:04:17

We've turned into a question asking culture (using google)
6 Oct 2011 - 10:04:58

->It's what Google represents, virtually dependable and bottomless access to answers. Think again about a generation of youngsters who have no ceiling. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

@Kim do mine :)
6 Oct 2011 - 10:05:19

Are kids really different than adults that have a desire to learn and connect?
6 Oct 2011 - 10:05:50

->I can't say that they're different, though neurologists do say that. But their 'native' experience is based on information and they are constantly having to learn and re-learn new information environments, no video games, and upgrades of Facebook, etc. A few weeks ago, I wrote a <a href="http://davidwarlick.com/2cents/?p=3200" target="_blank">blog entry</a> suggesting that the fact that I grew up playing a handful of games (Monopoly, checkers, baseball, football, etc.) and that the rules that defined those games never changed made my youth different from that of my children who were constantly learning new games. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

"when we are in convenient communication with others we almost always learn something"
6 Oct 2011 - 10:12:21

Expect students to question their way in to the learning
6 Oct 2011 - 10:18:39

->Yes! Leave out part of the necessary information. Plant barriers that they have to question themselves around. Give them an assignment that involves only the end product, and then allow them to question themselves into the rubric that will be used to evaluate their work. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

"start small, leave stuff out, promote conversation"
6 Oct 2011 - 10:18:48

@ think kids are just better at finding a variety of places to learn from.
6 Oct 2011 - 10:23:16

->I wonder if they are more resourceful, in general, that adults who grew up without the Internet. I don't know. I think I'm pretty resourceful, but in a way, I grew up with the Internet, because I've used it from its beginning, and I'm still growing up ;-) - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

@Josh @curious kids are so comfortable with tools that some adults are not.
6 Oct 2011 - 10:25:06

->That you use the word, comfortable, is important. They are probably not any more skilled than we are, though they may be more practiced. But the difference is that sense of comfort and the time that they have to play. I think that we can give teachers more comfort by giving them permission to make mistakes and to be master learners. Heidi Jacob (forget last name), the curriculum mapping guru, recently used the term "Public Learners." I like that. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

Purpose of school is to not get caught being wrong!
6 Oct 2011 - 10:26:29

We need to unleash the creativity of our students.
6 Oct 2011 - 10:26:42

->We need to empower it. We need to remove their ceilings.

** We need to give them responsive tools

** Audiences for their work, from whom they can learn

** Work that's valuable, meaningful, interesting

** and permission to make mistakes and have some fun. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

@Deanna like we give kids opportunity to succeed, need to do that for adults.
6 Oct 2011 - 10:32:50

->BINGO! We need to also empower success in teachers. We don't choose to be teachers to make big bucks. We choose to be teachers in order to succeed. - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

->Great conversation! Thanks! - dfw<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7f39fcc720abd8b9787b378a95ee8149' height='25' align='right'>

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